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[07:05:58]<nsz>"There are several hundred thousands lines of javascript in Gmail – one of the biggest in the world" D:
[07:09:22]<arg>nsz: source?
[07:10:25]<nsz>http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/14/key-to-gmail/
[07:14:55]<erikh>yep, this is heading right to my boss's inbox
[07:29:58]<arg>gsoc will announce tomorrow at 7pm UTC if we are accepted
[08:08:51]<zcram>i don't want gmail
[08:09:41]<arg>you can use gmail for backup reasons
[08:12:28]<jerome>I actually like gmail "tag" ergonomy.
[08:12:30]<zcram>if I really need a good backup, I have my laser printer right here
[08:13:20]<jerome>not to mention obvious free GB, smtp/imaps access ...
[08:31:25]<kfx_>so start your own mail server and use supmail
[13:49:35]<kalzu>hello, I just install and testing slock... ...my display just stay black... ...howto get back to dwm?
[13:50:29]<Zaba>type your password?
[13:52:04]<kalzu>just too simple =)
[17:46:52]<wertwertgfhjrer>im using dwm 5.6 on ubuntu 9.10. is there a way to standby my computer with dwm?
[17:47:32]<ohnobinki>echo standby > /sys/power/state
[17:47:44]<ohnobinki>(as root, ofc)
[17:47:55]<diginux_2>no
[17:48:08]<diginux_2>pm-suspend is the way to go
[17:48:16]<diginux_2>imo
[17:48:32]<ohnobinki>I don't have that program on my machine
[17:48:59]<wertwertgfhjrer>thx for both of you, Ill write that down and try later.
[17:50:51]<wertwertgfhjrer>how would you hibernate the system?
[17:51:01]<diginux>pm-hibernate
[17:51:09]<kfx_>echo disk > /sys/power/state
[17:51:25]<diginux>wertwertgfhjrer: there is also a pm-suspend-hybrid
[17:51:39]<kfx_>pm-suspend and pm-hibernate are programs that attempt to compensate for quirks in your particular machine
[17:52:02]<kfx_>they try hard to avoid errors and crashes related to acpi implementations
[17:52:25]<kfx_>but Real Men fix their dsdts and link those into the kernel and just echo mem > /sys/power/state
[17:52:55]<ohnobinki>I pretty much just ``chvt 1; sleep 3; echo disk > /sys/power/state; sleep 1; sleep 3; chvt 7''
[17:53:43]<kfx>ohnobinki: pm-suspend basically tries to figure out which of that is necessary for your particular computer
[17:53:55]<ohnobinki>yeah, I am able to read ;-)
[17:53:57]<kfx>it also does crap like determines if s3_bios=acpi_sleep etc
[17:54:23]<ohnobinki>hmm.. .I've never heard of that
[17:54:30]<kfx>required on a lot of thinkpads
[17:55:16]<kfx>in the kernel command line, that is
[18:05:11]<n0nsense>ohnobinki: thanks!!! <3
[18:05:15]<n0nsense>I didn't know chvt
[18:05:22]<n0nsense>I've always been looking for that
[18:05:37]<n0nsense>why do you sleep 1; sleep 3?
[18:27:18]<wertwertgfhjrer>ohnobinki, when i type 'echo standby > /sys/power/state' while root it says 'bash: echo: write error: No such device' . any idea? hybernation works fine
[18:28:03]<ohnobinki>wertwertgfhjrer: see what running cat /sys/power/state gives you
[18:28:27]<ohnobinki>n0nsense: I don't know why I do that ;-)
[18:29:17]<n0nsense>wertwertgfhjrer: try mem
[18:29:18]<wertwertgfhjrer>mem and disk, ill try mem instead of standby
[18:29:29]<n0nsense>I use mem on the netbook
[18:29:40]<n0nsense>the desktop does not wake up anymore if I suspend it
[18:29:57]<wertwertgfhjrer>lets hope my notebook wakes up
[18:30:29]<n0nsense>I think my problem is graphics-card (and thus nvidia-driver) related
[18:30:51]<n0nsense>ohnobinki: I mean, you could just use sleep 4 :P
[18:33:40]<ohnobinki>I probably wrongly assumed that the first ``sleep 1'' would be eaten up somehow during the suspension
[18:34:07]<wertwertgfhjrer>mem works fine for me, but now my speakers are wooshing and the machine is less responsive
[18:34:30]<ohnobinki>after waking up, your machine will be slightly less responsive until apps are loaded out of swap
[18:34:49]<ohnobinki>if your sound is messed up though... that's unfortunate
[18:34:59]<n0nsense>[23:34] < ohnobinki> after waking up, your machine will be slightly less responsive until apps are loaded out of swap
[18:35:06]<n0nsense>just like a human being .D
[18:35:28]<n0nsense>give it time to wake up, make some coffee for it and it will be a lot better :D
[18:35:41]<ohnobinki>wertwertgfhjrer: I think your machine would rather some tea :-p
[18:36:19]<wertwertgfhjrer>or just a swearword. now its working fine again.
[19:23:32]<bja>Sorry for spamming with parts and joins, a few more and i am done thx