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[01:09:03]<uriel>wtf, this has made it to the reddit frontpage:
[01:09:05]<uriel>http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/bepvg/wikipedia_notability_and_open_source_software_the/
[01:31:21]<|>Wikipedia is a joke and far from an open forum for information.
[01:31:31]<|>I gave up trying to meet their fucked up standards years ago :p
[01:31:42]<|>Mostly I just clean up C source nowadays.
[01:34:10]<|>Hahaha, now that's fun.
[01:34:26]<|>I looked up all the edits I did anonymously in the last few weeks on this [dynamic] IP.
[01:34:52]<|>The first few that show up in the history are from someone who was editing the United States Soccer Federation article and the one on Tom Brandstater
[01:35:40]<uriel>hah
[01:35:56]<uriel>I gave up a long while ago when I couldn't put up with all the fucked up bureaucracy anymore
[01:36:30]<uriel>just to figure out what the fuck a wikipedian is talkinga bout you have to spend two hours reading rules and acronims and shit
[01:36:49]<uriel>arg: wtf is with the mailing lists page?
[01:36:59]<|>There were several projects that I had cared about which to many (it seemed) met the notability guidelines. On one such project I spent almost 3 days battling out (politely) why a project met those standards and was not justified for deletion.
[01:37:08]<|>In the end it was deleted.
[01:37:18]<|>So I stopped caring.
[01:37:24]<uriel>arg: why are all addresses listed as @MAILHOST
[01:37:38]<uriel>suckless only has one 'mailhost', suckless.org
[01:37:39]<|>And then the person who upped it for deletion went and voted deletion for all other projects in the same scope as the one I had argued for keeping.
[01:38:06]<|>Apparently it was all started from some post on 4chan to go and delete certain articles which fit within that scope I am so ominously not specifying.
[01:38:25]<|>What was worse is that it was voted for deletion by a Wikipedo administrator. T.T
[01:38:29]<|>So meh
[01:38:43]<|>Wikipedia does have some great articles but it's a horrible place for an author.
[01:40:55]<|>http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Setuid&oldid=347422336 Well here's a very simple one I claned up
[01:40:59]<|>cleaned, even T.T
[01:41:10]<|>person was using 4 printf()'s where it could easily be 1
[01:41:30]<|>And whoever tries to right-justify with tabs should be shot :p
[01:41:57]<uriel>even the good big articles have been getting worse
[01:42:32]<uriel>it is just not worth the time of anyone that knows anything to spend their time fighting with all the morons that come along to plaster all kinds of bullshit
[01:42:48]<uriel>because in the end is about how can play the bureaucratic game better
[01:43:56]<|>Maybe that's how you get a doctorate in team leadership these days..
[01:44:02]<|>Send the students to fight out dumb arguments on Wikipedo
[01:44:28]<|>If they cause one person to an hero, they've earned their doctorate.
[01:44:37]<|>er... commit suicide*
[01:45:10]<uriel>hah
[02:23:20]<|>http://partyvan.us/images/4chan/z0r-de_1633.swf This is why I voted for him.
[04:30:41]<arg>uriel: yes the page is a bit dumb, I guess you now migrated to your Berliner email address?
[07:31:21]<arg>moin
[07:32:34]<srm>moin
[07:35:59]<apo>moin
[07:37:42]<jt_>moin
[07:42:22]<erikh>ah, it's a moin flood; someone get an op
[08:56:01]<apo>http://sprunge.us/GNje <- wow, what the fuck, GNU...
[09:03:19]<erikh>haha
[09:03:21]<Knirch>o_O
[09:03:23]<erikh>it's internationalized
[09:03:24]<erikh>that's awesome
[09:04:25]<Knirch>It's a shame they don't do autohell style argument parsing
[09:04:40]<Zaba>Knirch, that would be rather redundant in C
[09:04:52]<Zaba>..well, now to think of it, it's rather redundant in bourne shell, too.
[09:04:56]<apo>What the fuck does initialize_main do...
[09:05:08]<Knirch>Zaba: http://sprunge.us/OaeD
[09:05:17]<Zaba>apo, you have to be a really skilled programmer to write so many ifdefs in such a small program
[09:05:25]<Zaba>Knirch, I know
[09:05:27]<erikh>heh
[09:05:41]<apo>Zaba: Small? It's 20kB
[09:05:56]<apo>People have written fucking *snake* in less bytes
[09:06:05]<apo>(less than 10% of that, actually)
[09:06:12]<Zaba>gnu is crazy. Tell us news!
[09:06:42]<Knirch>Zaba: was not intentional to direct it at you :) I just need more coffee
[09:35:00]<arg>that happens when people smoke too much
[13:00:31]<markand>I love dwm!
[13:08:41]<lavish>markand: now your sexuality sucks less
[13:08:48]<markand>(:
[13:08:51]<lavish>:P
[13:09:03]<markand>that's point was not sucking anyway
[13:09:08]<markand>:p
[13:09:54]<markand>I just saw the real utility of combining tags and using the “last view”
[13:12:12]<lavish>markand: well, the tag model is totally cool, but in the real world I'm more comfortable with desktops, that's why I switched to xmonad (instead of misunderstaning the tag usage and asking for different layout for each tag :P)
[13:12:40]<lavish>the "last view" is a killer feature, I implemented it under xmonad too
[13:12:45]<markand>:)
[13:12:58]<markand>xmonad would be my favorite wm after dwm
[13:13:09]<markand>haskell is quite painful to compile
[13:13:24]<lavish>s/compile/understand/ :P
[13:13:30]<jt_>ghc is painful to compile
[13:13:45]<lavish>jt_: it is, that's why I use a binary version even under gentoo
[13:13:59]<markand>yeah
[13:14:28]<jt_>not as bad as boost though
[13:14:57]<kfx>xmonad is a tremendous mess
[13:15:25]*erikh!~erikh@hollensbe.org <3 wmii
[13:15:33]<jt_>my laptop got really hot when I tried to compile inkscape, which needs boost. the cpu temp went to like 96C and then I unplugged it in fear of it melting :(
[13:16:40]<lavish>boost-1.41.0-r3: Mon Mar 8 19:17:51 2010: 25 minutes, 17 seconds
[13:16:56]<lavish>and this is a fast cpu
[13:17:19]<lavish>(compiled on a single core anyway)
[13:17:44]<lavish>it takes around 12minutes with full powers :P
[13:18:08]<lavish>C++ is always a PITA to compile
[13:38:13]<|>(18:13:09) < markand> haskell is quite painful to compile
[13:38:13]<|>(18:13:24) < lavish> s/compile/understand/ :P
[13:38:17]<|>Agree completely :(
[13:38:53]<|>I love how expressive it is with so little, and functional programming on the level is heavenly, but dwm brings me in with the simplicity of design/code :>
[15:28:46]<markand> { MODKEY, XK_0, view, {.ui = ~0 } },
[15:28:57]<markand>this means the 0 numeric key ?
[15:36:33]<markand>okay it makes a client sticky, cannot we untag it ?
[15:38:17]<kfx>sure, just apply a different tag
[15:38:54]<markand>ah yes thanks you
[15:41:57]<aaptel>is anyone using st?
[18:25:21]<srm>R.0
[18:58:30]<arg>uriel: since you suffer from netsplits at shitnode, one good news in gsoc2010 is that they also rejected rails ;)
[18:58:51]<uriel>arg: fuck yea!
[19:00:07]<antoszka>1st
[19:04:27]<arg>ok good night now, next year I might have enough funding to arrange SSoC, then we don't need to apply...
[19:38:29]<aaptel>foo
[19:54:42]<srm>bar (of course ;-)